Legacy Updates (2004-2013)

Man’s Best Friend

Greetings avid viewers! I’d like to welcome you to the latest edition of As Trialityguild.com Turns. I’d say As Triality Turns but as fate would have it, I’m not welcome in Everquest for 7 days. My name is Dalnoth, you might not remember me, but that doesn’t matter. Recently I started playing EverQuest and helping run the guild after about a two year hiatus. But that’s jibber jabber and what I’m here to talk about is a lot more serious. So get your serious-business face ready, put your Anti-Triality hats on and lets get ready to roll.

Greetings, Adventurer:

Your account has been found to have benefited from a nearly guild wide raid exploit. Per developers’ request and supplementary CS investigations, this has lead to a 7-8 day suspension of your account. Due to the nature of this exploit, any items gained through the exploit will also be removed. Please note that due to the severity of scope of the exploit, suspension reversals will not be considered in this case.

Please keep in mind that bypassing intended content and lock out timers is an exploit of the game dynamics and continued use of these exploits could lead up to an account termination. Thank you for your cooperation when you return to game.

Sincerely,
Game Master Clemencius
EverQuest/EverQuest 2/Star Wars Galaxies In-Game CSR
Sony Online Entertainment, L.L.C.

This is the email we all received tonight after having our collective guild suspended for 8 days. I’m sure everyone is sitting on the edge of their seat at this point; What could we have possibly done, that nobody else had done to warrant an 8 day suspension? Because obviously, if other guilds were doing it they would have been suspended too right? We begged the question and then we found out what we were suspended for.

We were killing the Beast with our raid, then tanking his mate with alts and healing the tank with alts while he was at 0%, dropping the DZ on our mains and letting the alts eat the lockout.

Here’s the first three things that come to mind immediately:

  • Is this against the rules? Yes
  • Were we the only ones doing this to raid events? No
  • Were we the only ones suspended for doing this? Yes

The sheer semantics of this are mind boggling for the very reason that Triality isn’t the only guild doing this but, we seem to be the only guild getting punished for doing this. So for this very instance it seems at best, questionable; and at worst begrudging of SoE-staff to suspend our entire guild when other entire guilds are still online right now who have performed the same actions. For example:

Crimson Tempest was in Pellucid Grotto for 3 and a half hours the other night zoning in/out. They are either the world’s worst Pellucid Grotto raiders or there was something fishy going on there. Considering a 4 year old in a Power Wheels could beat Pellucid Grotto, I think it’s pretty safe to assume they were doing the same exact thing we were.

How many people have ever /DZadded or /Taskadded people into a group mission after dropping people who actually did the mission from it? Apparently that’s not an exploit and is completely intended to give someone credit for a task/mission they didn’t do.

How many people here ever saw the literally-hundreds-of-people who ever did the same exact thing to farm Frostcrypt/Ashengate augs to this very day and nothing ever happened to them?

How about the literally-hundreds-of-people who exploited Rallos Returns doing, literally, 10 times worse then what we were doing to the Beast; yet nothing ever happened to them?

How about Crimson Tempest who kept a Kerafyrm add mez locked at the zone in to prevent Kerafyrm from respawning so every time they wipe, they can start off from the % that they wiped on ?

Absolutely retarded. You mean to tell me, that the same thing happens for, literally, years upon years in Everquest; but you pick now…3+ years later to take disciplinary action in this manner? Not only did you take 3 years to do it, Sony, but you did it in a most biased form. The fact that it wasn’t even Customer Service that handed down the bans, but a Developer, just goes to show you the reason why Triality was the only guild suspended and why no other guilds were suspended as of 12:11am 4/28/2010 and no mass guild suspension/banning has been done since Sleeper’s Tomb (unless I’m wrong) when there have been so many other actions that were equal of, or more warranting of, CS disciplinary action.

It seems to me everyone else can live around the margins and get away with it, but if Triality does something there is an epic scandal followed by everyone who has been stock piling hate on us for God knows how long, getting their jerk-off on whatever outlet you look at for Everquest forums. As much as I hate them lets take the New York Yankees as an example to display how this goes down.

Yankees play at a higher level -> Yankees recruit/sign the good players from other Kansas City Royals-like teams through-out MLB -> Kansas City Royals-like teams hate the Yankees

We have recruited from under-achieving shit-hole guilds not worth mentioning that reside under Triality/CT on Maelin and reside on Xegony in now the “top amazing best ever” raiding guild on the server; who keep in mind can’t kill a nerfed down Clicknar Queen for 2 weeks after it had it’s legs broke. Does anyone see a trend here? I certainly do.

Trashbag guilds that can’t progress lose members to Triality -> Said guilds members have a knee jerk opinion that anything negative said about us is true and run with it from their infinite bitterness -> 4 years later, here we are.

Anytime Triality is mentioned the collective hate squad, who live extremely fulfilling and pleasant lives, are there to meet the word ‘Triality’ with verbal feces in an attempt to bring us down.

Triality raids at a level above. You can debate this all you want and throw knee jerk “Ur EXPLOITERZ LOL” after everything; but guess what? This isn’t Everquest Live and you can’t post that here. You have to actually read logic and face facts here instead of forming a circle jerk of ‘Triality hate’ around the Developer’s cookie for a game of “Loser Eats It”. What makes me think you are going to read it? We both know if you made it this far, you are way too obsessed with riding our dicks to stop now, so please, assume the position.

You can’t argue fact. The fact is: Triality has legitimately killed/completed the last five expansions in a number 1, 2, or 3 fashion progression-wise dating back to PoR. We are currently the oldest raiding guild that stays at the top curve of competition dating back to a form date of 09/02. Stupid bullshit like this, among other shit; which has no baring at all on any of this guilds prior or present accomplishments and success, but haters take this as the perfect “straw-man” to make a cliche response to anything Triality. “ROFL EXPLOITURZ”. Which leads into my next segment: The majority of you line up on call to bash Triality for things because you are doing your best to try and keep the attention off you/your guild who most likely have done something WAY WORSE then what we did to earn this suspension.

1.) The CT Kerafyrm Debacle.

2.) Township Rebellion claimed they never buff blocked an event publically, however, their first Kerafyrm kill was the result of a buff block. Keep in mind that this wasn’t done to circumvent broken content; it was done because they couldn’t hack it.

2a) Also using the buff block exploit to fell the mighty Kerafyrm was Raging Fury and Triton.

3.) Realm of Who? Used the same Buff Block exploit to kill Brath before the fix went in for him. Yet we’re cheaters and exploiters (their member’s quotes). Just to give you an idea with the level of hypocrisy and childish rhetoric we are dealing with here. Not to mention (although I’m about to) how their first Queen kill was a result of a bug and they hadn’t legitimately killed her again: the Clicknar Queen despawns at 70% and gives you loot. I didn’t see any of you running to say, “Hey we didn’t beat this event! Don’t give us credit on Lavanet!” I didn’t see any of you running to not loot the chests that dropped from the event. I didn’t see any of you not rushing to Lucy to wave your collective penises in the air. Scouts honor; right?

4.) In another dose of pure irony, Triality first heard about using ‘The Rock’ to dodge the Beast from…other guilds pointing their fingers at us. Ironically, the two guilds who did this (RoI and Machin Something), where we learned this from, actually killed the Beast before us using said exploit; and they have the most vocal trash talkers of Triality in public.

5.) Machin Shit’s proud and Ivory Tower Crusading guild-leader Ronak received a cease and desist letter from former Lead GM-Vianaxis about his guild’s rampant use of Third Party/Hacking programs with a guild disbanding threat. Pulling corpses from PoTime graveyard to PoTime Phase 5 after a wipe anyone? It’s funny how Ronak turns a blind eye to such things until he received the C&D order from Sony, not even removing the abusers from his guild, but further enabling their contribution to his raid. So as I said earlier, it’s pretty comical to find things out like this. The biggest Triality haters are really just trying to “deflect” any kind of accusations/attention from their own guild.

6.) Some guild not worth mentioning on Firiona Vie has a guild leader who is the biggest RMT proprietor in Everquest. The guild basically exists for him to RMT off of.

I could go and on and on, but I won’t. Although I have a week to do nothing between 7-11pm and if people wanna keep the shit spinning, I’m ready to play Wheel of Fortune.

Most importantly, why did I bring all this up? I brought all this up because frankly a lot of us are sick of reading exaggerated/baseless/spun claims/attacks on our guild and:

A.) Being met with a knee-jerk reaction on EQlive when attempted to actually have a conversation with said people about the situation or an actual discussion/debate, coupled with a mentality that could rival only that of a 6 year old in a pack during kindergarten recess ridiculing one person.

B.) Absolutely sick of being the Straw-Man for everyone’s guild to draw the attention away from the unsavory actions they’ve done.

C.) Sick of unfair treatment from Sony Employees

D.) Tired of reading finger pointing and ridicule from people who are in guilds that have definitely lived outside the margins before in raid content.

Since I have yet to touch on Topic C, lets go there.

Triality reports that a wipe mechanic in the Brath script didn’t work to SoE Development. We waited for a response for weeks…upon weeks. Finally after 3 weeks of these bugs going unaddressed and lack of anything else to do, we buff-block up and kill Brath. After 3 weeks of no communication, the fixes for the fight were on Test…2 days later. Or better in this case, The Beast lockout skipping (which is what resulted in our suspension), was reported at least 4 months ago and never patched in. It takes us having to actually do something, before it gets your attention.

Look at it this way, it’s like locking a 100lb dog in a room with a door that has a circle door in it and feeding him 10 pounds of dog food. Then when the dog has to go the bathroom, he tries to get out of the door and can’t because the hole is too small, so he looks at you to fix the door. When you don’t fix the door, the dog shits on the rug, and then you get pissy with the dog and slap him off the nose and THEN fix the door. See what I’m saying?

We did what we did, whatever. Nobody is debating if it was against the rules or not because it was; what we are debating is:

A.) Why other guilds who did exactly what we did; didn’t receive disciplinary action other than the obvious reason is; somebody has it out for us or, you are making an example out of us.

B.) Why now? People DZdodged Rallos Returns for literally almost a year before it was fixed, nothing happened. People DZdodge aug mobs in Frostcrypt/Ashengate to double farm, nothing happens. Triality DZDodges Beast raid, and the entire guild gets slapped with a 1 week suspension.

Anyone see any unfair treatment here?

Anyway I’m sure we’re going to see the refusal and denial that anything happened that I detailed in here from other Non-Exploiting, Fair-Playing, Ivory-Tower Sitting Everquest guilds, because as I said earlier; The Straw-Man technique is the most effective route to masking one’s own faults or passing the buck if you will. Nobodys perfect; even us, and you’re not any different.

It’s with all this going on that I will present…

The Q/A that will last at least 1 hour and be moderated/screened. If there is a question about Triality that you ever wanted to ask and get a straight answer to that wasn’t a knee-jerk 12 year old EQlive post response, please be there.

Server: irc.rogean.com
Port: 6667

The channel will be moderated and you will get tossed for being a tool, besides; do you really need another public venue to shit up? You have the EQLive boards for that.


Originally posted by Dalnoth • Apr 28, 2010 02:06   

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